Firearms 1st Guntalk Forum: Last 35 Posts

Makulu on "Henry Nettleton Initialed Engraved Cylinder"

Makulu — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:35:00 +0000

If you still own your Colt SAA stamped "HN" and if you would consider selling it, i may be an interested buyer. If so, please email me with a photograph of both sides & an asking price to makulu@msn.com

Dale on "38 Cal US Revolver-Info and help"

Dale — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:50:23 +0000

Dale on "38 Cal US Revolver-Info and help"

Dale — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:49:52 +0000

I have a hammerless US Revolver,38 Cal, serial # D6368
I removed trigger to clean and can not find where a left over part of the assembly belongs. It is approx size of a penny with claw on edge. Has bell shaped hole in center with very small triangle leaf spring in hole.
Direction on reassemble needed. A source for schematic
would be great. Some background on model would be nice. Thanks , Dale

lazygirl on "guntopia.com"

lazygirl — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:33:27 +0000

Trent that site sucks, there's absolutely nothing there.

lazygirl on "Henry Nettleton Initialed Engraved Cylinder"

lazygirl — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:32:11 +0000

I purchased an old Colt SAA for a shooter. It has an engraved cylinder with HN stamped in it. Derek says it is not a Colt cylinder, that it is likely from a replica. But the metal is soft like that from a 1st Generation Colt. A replica would be made from modern material. From what I have read Colt inspectors would not have stamped their initials into a cylinder for any reason. Does anyone have any idea what the story could be behind such a cylinder?

Trent on "Users with a space in their username"

Trent — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:59:45 +0000

i see new people registering with names that have a space in their username. i dont think they will be able to post on the forum. i dont think bbpress is fully compatible with wordpress.

people - if you want to use the message forum dont register using a username that has spaces

Trent on "guntopia.com"

Trent — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:55:37 +0000

Found a gun auction site - havent checked it out yet. anyone ever used it before? http://www.guntopia.com/

lazygirl on "GB Seller: antlermount / easy mount / Bill Barsalow"

lazygirl — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:51:00 +0000

I bought another antique from antlermount. It checks out and I believe I got a good deal. The shipping was screwy again but I guess it doesn't matter so much now as I am aware of that before I go into a transaction with him. This is the third item I bought from Bill.

Trent on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

Trent — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:29:42 +0000

Black Hills Ammunition Factory New Cowboy Action .38 Long Colt 158 Gr. RNL Box of 50

$17.44

http://www.bosesguns.com/product_p/bhdcb38cltn1-1.htm

Trent on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

Trent — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:38:42 +0000

Don't shoot the .38S&W in your lightning. They're not the same.

So ya know, the .38 S&W - also called .38 Colt New Police - same thing. not .38 S&W

The .38 S&W is a slightly larger caliber, not meant for the smaller bore of your lightning. Now the .38 LC is a longer cartridge, but a bit skinnier.

I've heard of people loading .38 LC on a .38 S&W case for modified lightings - but I don't know if that's ok or not.

derek on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

derek — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:01:15 +0000

You said .389 but you are probably using a bore gage which is perhaps more accurate than a caliper for measuring inside diameter. However, all I have is my good trusty caliper.

When I check the cylinder chambers of a couple unmolested original antique lightning's I get a measurement of .381

On this re-nickel cowboy action shooter I get a slightly larger measurement of .383 (the one I was able to slide a .38 S&W cartridge in)

On an actual Smith and Wesson top break revolver I get .386

Trent on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

Trent — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:22:43 +0000

You may shoot either 38 Long Colt or .38 Colt in an unmodified Lightning revolver pistol. .38 S&W are a bit wider cartridge. Now what some people have done is had their Colt Lightning reamed - that's where the chamber hole of the cylinder has been drilled slightly larger to handle the .38 S&W - because that is more common ammo.

Check the cylinder - see if the chamber is over .389 because if it is then you know its been modified.

When buying old Colts, check the bore always before you decide to keep or send back.

lazygirl on "Property Rights versus Gun Rights in Florida"

lazygirl — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:59:40 +0000

The Florida legislature is considering a bill that would make it a third-degree felony to ban guns on company premises, according to MSNBC.
This bill is being framed as a fight between property rights and gun rights. The right of a citizen to bear arms is conflicting with the right of a company to have control over its own property.

Companies are legally obligated to provide a safe work environment under federal workplace regulations. If HB 129 passes, some legal experts believe it would make it more difficult to comply. Some companies have prohibited guns on its premises because they are concerned about disgruntled former employees having quick access to firearms.

Theresa M. Gallion, managing partner at a Tampa-based law firm, stated, "Easy access to a weapon may facilitate a bad decision on the part of an emotionally distraught person. I can imagine a significant increase in litigation seeking to hold the employer accountable if this unwise legislation passes."

The Jacksonville Business Journal reported that HB 129 has been added to the Florida House Judiciary Committee's agenda for February 8.

Liberty Zone provides commentary on the story.

derek on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

derek — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:41:49 +0000

My lightning takes 38 long colt. It looks like I would be able to shoot 38 S&W in it also. The case is shorter but appears to be the same diameter. Is there any reason why that wouldn't work?

Trent on "GB Seller: antlermount / easy mount / Bill Barsalow"

Trent — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:24:27 +0000

This guy is a good seller. He typically has lots of antiques of varying quality and value. As long as you know what you-re after he'll treat ya right.

CDobson on "midwest-neatstuff"

CDobson — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:36:57 +0000

stands to reason the dude's friend is gonna stick up for him

lazygirl on "GB Seller: antlermount / easy mount / Bill Barsalow"

lazygirl — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:44:57 +0000

Bill jacked up the shipping charge after the auction ended. He charged more than he stated in the auction. Besides being dishonest about the shipping, he did deliver. The auction item was honest and exactly as he described. I am still a little annoyed about the extra shipping charge though.

lazygirl on "midwest-neatstuff"

lazygirl — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:40:27 +0000

That was very long winded, yet it avoids the obvious fact that your friend has FAR MORE negatives than most sellers. I'm not talking about total volume. I am talking about a ratio, which is basic high school statistics. There are more negatives per every 100 transactions for this guy than the MAJORITY of other sellers.

Ok, look, let me spell this out…

Most sellers don't lash out with tasteless unprofessional responses to negative feedback. midwest-neatstuff does.

Most sellers average fewer than 2 negatives per 100 transactions. midwest-neatstuff has less than 300 transactions with 8 negatives!

midwest-neatstuff told an individual to f a flying doughnut when that person was only asking a polite question about an auction.

Your opinion is noted, and your fortunate experiences with Midwest-neatstuff doesn't alter the facts. When midwest-neatstuff is held up to the light, and compared to other sellers, the guy just looks plain bad.

Opinions are invented, reputations are earned!

Calhoun81 on "midwest-neatstuff"

Calhoun81 — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:07:29 +0000

I have personally known Joseph Lane, whose business sells as midwest-neatstuff on Gunbroker.com, for many years and have had purchased several firearms from his business. I have read the various posts regarding his business and have reviewed all of the Gunbroker feedback. I know Mr. Lane well enough to state without hesitation that Mr. Lane is an honest and reputable seller in his store and on Gunbroker and Ebay. He has been in business for over 15 years and has a substantial retail store in addition to his online business. He buys and sells significant numbers of firearms. Mr. Lane and his employees are very knowledgeable about firearms, and I believe his listings will accurately describe the condition of the firearms being sold. I have found that my emails and phone calls are promptly and courteously handled. While his feedback is not 100%, nearly all of the feedback posted is not only positive, but is accompanied by positive statements about the transaction. In hundreds of transactions, it is reasonable to expect that there are a few negatives. I have much more experience on Ebay than on Gunbroker, but not all buyers are perfect. A few buyers have unreasonable expectations or are difficult to satisfy and are quick to leave negative feedback to the seller, sometimes despite the sellers efforts to appease the buyer. I do agree that some of the responses apparently made by Mr. Lane's employees could have been more tactful, but I don't know the all of the communication history. I do know that Mr. Lane is accessible by email and have no doubt that he would gladly discuss any issues with a buyer in person or by phone as well. Since on Ebay and Gunbroker I am primarily a buyer, I understand the importance of a seller's feedback to a prospective bidder. However, even if I did not know Mr. Lane personally, I would have no reservations about bidding on any of his online auctions given his feedback, his guarantee stated in his auctions and the high quality of his listings and photos. I believe that the "warning" about midwest-neatstuff unfairly labels Mr. Lane and his business as dishonest and should be removed. If some bidder reads the feedback record and chooses not to bid that is fine, but for this site to try to discourage bidders from doing business with midwest-neatstuff on the basis of a limited number of negative feedbacks is unfair. Such a recommendation could well cause bidders to decline to bid on the auctions without ever taking the time to check the feedback out for themselves.

Trent on "Model 1863 ramrod, splitting hairs?"

Trent — Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:33:20 +0000

Well he doesn't say it is original to the gun. Ramrods have been mixed in the heat of battle and over the years. He probably didn't know better and just wanted to make it sound good. I think it is getting picky, for that price anyway.

derek on "Model 1863 ramrod, splitting hairs?"

derek — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:25:33 +0000

The tulip ramrod is correct for Type I, this appears to be a Type II. It might be more correct to say that the tulip ramrod is correct for a model 1863, but is not original to this type.

According to Flayderman's this auction is for a Springfield Model 1863 type II - see the date on the lock. However, he presents what he calls the correct ramrod, which would actually go to a type I. The type II ramrod had the knurled and slotted tulip.

Gun Broker:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?item=42735234

Seller:
The Cavalry Soldier

TomGun on "midwest-neatstuff"

TomGun — Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:37:39 +0000

in an auction one time from him one time, but think he is kind of rude to deal with. I bet Im not the only one. I would rather buy from sellers with the right attitude. Neatstuff doesn't have the right attitude.

CDobson on "midwest-neatstuff"

CDobson — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:39:22 +0000

He doesn't seem honest to me

derek on "midwest-neatstuff"

derek — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:19:28 +0000

It looks as though he is trying to say that the fault lies with his employee. But the real question is whether or not honesty has anything to do with professionalism. We often hear the words honesty and integrity used together.

Is this business dishonest? Judging by feedback there seems to be an above average number of buyer complaints. This seller is trying to substantiate credibility by leveraging those positive feedback responses as evidence. However, it would be unreasonable to assume that any seller is going to have a majority of negative feedback responses and still be able to sell anything to anyone! Wouldn't it be cleverer for a dishonest seller to complete several inexpensive honest transactions then nail a buyer on the occasional expensive item? I'm not suggesting that this is the case with mw. But the logic is no less sound than his assertion that his positive feedback establishes him as an honest seller without regards to the unusually high number of negative feedback complaints.

What makes mw look bad is the accumulative evidence that there was a failed transaction between your friend and mw, the inappropriate correspondences with auction users, especially women, the high number of feedback as well as the responses mw posts below buyer complaints.

If I were this seller I would fire the mental case employee, and start fresh with a new user id in an honest attempt to please as many customers as possible within reason. There are too many sellers out there with very few negatives to risk doing business with someone that has a wacky employee and bad feedback.

Trent on "midwest-neatstuff"

Trent — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:43:57 +0000

Hi Trent,

I have no idea who that might be or when but I sure would like to give my side of any situation.

MW stands for Midwest Exchange.

I have tended not to interfer with him as he is a very dedicated and hard working individual who has a hard time dealing with people who ask for or go out of realistic bounds. He answers several hundred emails per day and has had no problem making refunds or going out of his way to be nice and accomodating under 99 % of everyday circumstances. However he does get aggitated with people who use no common sense or common logic. I'm going to sit down with him today and discuss his ( at times ) harse comments.

I have to agree with you to a point but wonder how this indicate we are dishonest ? ? That is confusing and UNTRUTHFUL to say midwest-neatstuff is dishonest and to avoid us and not deal with us. Why not say we have been harse in returning negative feedbacks ( this will stop ) but to claim were DISHONEST ! That is a total untruth !

Not sure if you have ever sold on ebay and gunbroker but there are a lot of buyers on gunbroker ( much more then ebay ) that simply never follow through with an auction and never pay after an auction... never return requests as to their intentions etc. ... Not sure why but it is a fact. Probably has more to do with the lady of the house putting a nix on their purchase. But I really don't know the answer to that.

I appeciate you getting back to me but I'm still left with a feeling of why you describe us as "DISHONEST" when that is totally false. I assume someone gave you their viewpoint and since you read some our guy's harse comments you equated this with being dishonest ? Plese fill me in on how you arrived at telling the world we are dishonest and to be avoided. How would you describe all the very positive comments ? As people who just don't know any better ... and aware of our so called dishonesty ?
You have a good day Trent,
Best Regards, Joseph

CDobson on "Fighting for Conceal Carry in Nebraska"

CDobson — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:46:36 +0000

I hear that Nebraska is trying for conceal carry again. What are your chances this year? The Bradey people love Nebraska you know!

CDobson on "midwest-neatstuff"

CDobson — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:37:37 +0000

Oh yeah, Gunbroker's letter grades are too forgiving. It's like level high school percentage based letter grades, which is fine for your 14-year-old's history exam, but useless for checking a seller. My suggested grading system:

0 negatives is the only way to have an A+
1 negative per 100 A
2 negatives per 100 B
3 negatives per 100 C
4 negatives per 100 D

lazygirl on "midwest-neatstuff"

lazygirl — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:28:40 +0000

I asked that guy some questions about an auction once and I asked about some of the negatives he had in his feedback. His response contained some pretty peculiar advice. He suggested that while in flight, I attempt to engage in sexual intercourse with a small friend ring shaped cake while it too is in motion; in short, something about f-ing a doughnut. He also suggested that I had no business buying firearms due to the fact that I am a woman. So I pretty much vote to leave the sexist pig listed as a bad seller. He is a horrible, horrible guy. The things he said to me where vulgar and childish to the point that I think he may have a serious anti-social mental disorder. What a creep! I can't believe the Federal Government would trust a guy like that with a dealer's license.

derek on "midwest-neatstuff"

derek — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:57:13 +0000

He does have an excess of negative feedback on gunbroker.com. I personally would never buy from a seller with that many negatives. Like you said, I too might except 2 or maybe as high as 3 negatives per 100 depending on circumstances. A seller's rebuttal to negative feedback is important when considering leniency. I look for a seller response that is both logical, polite, and sounds reasonable enough to be true. It looks like midwest-neatstuff posts some pretty childish rebuttals to negative feedback. That says a lot about the seller's character. If the character of the seller is compromised like that, then why should I be expected to trust that individual? After all, say there is a problem, would I wish to open myself to the level of abuse midwest-neatstuff lashes out at customers with? Certainly not. I agree with the advice to avoid him.

Trent on "midwest-neatstuff"

Trent — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:43:13 +0000

Here's what I said back...

Mr. Joseph W. Lane,

Feedback does have its faults, as any seasoned online auction user can confess. The information comes from a very well known woman antiques firearms collector. It was then verified to the best of our ability.

Who is the individual within your organization that identifies himself as "MW"? Assuming those are the individual's initials, what is the person's name? Are you aware of the type of correspondences that this MW conducts with both potential and existing customers of your business?

Also I noticed in the responses to negative feedback for 'midwest-neatstuff' on GB there were a lot of personal attacks and insults, such as calling the buyer 'jerk' or 'idiot'. Is it a member of your staff that lacks any level of professionalism and maturity and who is writing these feedback responses and emails with childish name-calling and profanity?

If you operate an honest business perhaps you should be aware that the actions of MW or whoever is writing these things compromise your businesses reputation.

A success ratio of feedback for GB is considered roughly 1 negative per 100 transactions with a few exceptions.

Thank you for writing to us and good luck with any potential personnel issues you may have within your organization.

Trent

Trent on "midwest-neatstuff"

Trent — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:42:41 +0000

Here's what midwest-neatstuff wrote today:

From: Joseph W. Lane <josephw1944@yahoo.com>
Website: Superfastcash.com
Message: You say you have confirmed our dishonesty ???
We have a 99.7 % positve rating on ebay. In the past year you will see that we have had 5 negatives out of the last 4500 feedbacks in the past year or approx. 1 per 900 transactions. The last one we got was Jan 9th because a woman bought an item and wanted to return it because she found a cheaper one. The ones before that were 2 from one very negative person who maintains private feedback because he has received 4 negatives for the last four items he purchased and only has 13 feedbacks in the past year. What if we got 4 negatives for every 13 transactions ???? The other 2 are for the same similar things. Did your investigation reveal this ???
Now for Gunbroker.com we have a 97 % rating which is also a very good rating. If you would have really gone back and investigated and looked at what these negatives were for you would see that they are not for delivering a correct or on time product but usually because the customer was unrealistic. For example the last neg. we received was on 3 /21/ 05 having to deal with a gun that they claimed was unsafe. The gun was perfectly safe but we offered to have the gun looked at and any repairs needed at our expense( including all shipping costs )and work would be done by an experienced highly qualified gunsmith. What the real problem was he over spent and needed his money for things like his light bill or car payment or whatever as the gun was totally as described.
There are bad sellers out there for sure but you should not put us into that catagory until you really check out some of the negative comments and what is really behind them. I would be more then happy to call you and discuss any and all feedbacks we have and let you decide after talking with us and getting full and complete input concerning both sides of this issue as to if we deserve some sort of title that indicates we are "Dirtbags" and to be avoided.
Joseph W. Lane (Owner)

Trent on "midwest-neatstuff"

Trent — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:41:53 +0000

I'm asking readers what they think...

We have this area on the site where we post information about (who we believe to be) crooked sellers that use online auctions to sell gun related stuff, and guns. Right now there is one bullseye on there for an outfit called midwest-neatstuff. The seller responds to questions about auction items with insults such as "f!!k yourself" and so forth. The seller has pretty bad feedback, but ironically demonstrates GB's very faulty feedback system that still awards an A+ to obviously bad sellers. You have to keep in mind that half the people who get screwed don't leave negative feedback because they don't want the negative feedback retaliation by the bad seller. So when you see a negative you almost have to consider another one out there that didn't get reported. But enough about GB's faulty feedback system… Today I got an email from midwest-neatstuff - a testimate to the effectivness of the bad sellers page here on FF.

Our Gun Auction Sellers page…
http://www.firearmsfirst.com/?page_id=18

My opinion might be biased though, as someone I highly respect had a very bad experience with midwest-neatstuff. Form your own opinion without regards to what I have said and post it here.

Should we remove the warning about midwest-neatstuff or leave it?

CDobson on "MP 44 7.92 mm (Kurz) - German StG"

CDobson — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:13:36 +0000

Isn't that a really old game?

CDobson on "
Greetings New Member!
You will not be able to post to the forum until a site administrator activates your forum access. Sorry for the inconvenience.Posting NRA Grade System"

CDobson — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:12:38 +0000

I posted this because people who buy and those who sell online should know what these are. IF You tell me excellent and I get a pistol with a pitted bore and chipped grips I say you need to look at the NRA grades again!

This is a nice reference to have.

CDobson on "Posting NRA Grade System"

CDobson — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 03:24:30 +0000

NRA Grades Explained

The following standards were set forth by the NRA for describing the condition of an antique firearm. The NRA officially calls these their "Condition Standards for Antique Firearms". This same grading system can be applied to modern firearms as well. We ask that you use this system when listing your firearms.

Unspecified - The condition of the item was not specified by the seller.

Factory New - all original parts; 100% original finish; in perfect condition in every respect, inside and out.

Excellent - all original parts; over 80% original finish; sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood; unmarred wood; fine bore.

Fine - all original parts; 30% to 80% original finish; sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood; minor marks in wood, good bore.

Very Good - all original parts; none to 30% original finish; original metal surfaces smooth with all edges sharp; clear lettering, numerals and design on metal; wood slightly scratched or bruised; bore disregarded for collectors firearms.

Good - some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or reblued; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal legible; wood refinished, scratched, bruised or minor cracks repaired; in good working order.

Fair - some major parts replaced; minor replacement parts may be required; metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or reblued; rounded edges of metal and wood; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated; wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken; in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order.

Poor - major and minor parts replaced; major replacement parts required and extensive restoration needed; metal deeply pitted; principal lettering, numerals and design obliterated; wood badly scratched, bruised, cracked or broken; mechanically inoperative; generally undesirable as a collectors firearm

Firearms 1st Guntalk Forum: Last 35 Posts

Makulu on "Henry Nettleton Initialed Engraved Cylinder"

Dale on "38 Cal US Revolver-Info and help"

Dale on "38 Cal US Revolver-Info and help"

lazygirl on "guntopia.com"

lazygirl on "Henry Nettleton Initialed Engraved Cylinder"

Trent on "Users with a space in their username"

Trent on "guntopia.com"

lazygirl on "GB Seller: antlermount / easy mount / Bill Barsalow"

Trent on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

Trent on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

derek on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

Trent on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

lazygirl on "Property Rights versus Gun Rights in Florida"

derek on "shoot 38S&W in colt lightning"

Trent on "GB Seller: antlermount / easy mount / Bill Barsalow"

CDobson on "midwest-neatstuff"

lazygirl on "GB Seller: antlermount / easy mount / Bill Barsalow"

lazygirl on "midwest-neatstuff"

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Trent on "Model 1863 ramrod, splitting hairs?"

derek on "Model 1863 ramrod, splitting hairs?"

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Trent on "midwest-neatstuff"

CDobson on "MP 44 7.92 mm (Kurz) - German StG"

CDobson on "Greetings New Member! You will not be able to post to the forum until a site administrator activates your forum access. Sorry for the inconvenience.Posting NRA Grade System"

CDobson on "Posting NRA Grade System"

CDobson on "
Greetings New Member!
You will not be able to post to the forum until a site administrator activates your forum access. Sorry for the inconvenience.Posting NRA Grade System"